Mayor Zohran Kwame Mamdani: Good morning, everyone. Thank you all for being here. It is an honor to be here alongside [Bronx] Borough President Vanessa Gibson, Council Member Justin Sanchez, our Corporation Counsel, Steve Banks; our Health commissioner, Dr. Alister Martin; DOB Commissioner Ahmed Tigani; HPD First Deputy Commissioner Adam Phillips, as well as our executive director of the Mayor's Office to Protect Tenants, Cea Weaver.
I also want to thank the dedicated attorneys from our Law Department whose hard work made today a reality, as well as the attorneys from TakeRoot Justice who fought on behalf of the tenants, the residents of 919 Prospect Avenue who refused to be silenced, and the committed advocates and organizations who have never stopped fighting for tenants across the city.
Today we celebrate a landmark victory, not only for those who call 919 Prospect [Avenue] home, but [also] for all those across the five boroughs contending with the daily misery, mistreatment and neglect of a bad landlord. For the past 15 years, residents of 919 Prospect Avenue have known this pain all too well. Since your landlord, a repeat offender on New York City's annual Worst Landlord Watch List, purchased the property in 2011, your tenants have faced an unending stream of violations that have taken a toll on their health, safety and well-being.
We are speaking of infestations of, mice, rats and cockroaches; leaking pipes; collapsed ceilings; black mold; and lead paint. The list of abuses and failures, frankly, goes on. Tenants report that not only has this landlord left the building in a state of near-complete neglect, [but] he has also cut off heat from families in the dead of winter, locked elderly residents out of their bathrooms and suspended utilities as a form of punishment for those who dare to lodge a complaint.
On top of this, the landlord has the audacity to raise the rent year after year and bring tenants to court when they take a stand against him. We are not speaking about a failure of building management. We are speaking about open contempt in the City of New York. No longer will City Hall turn a blind eye while New Yorkers suffer, while slumlords abuse tenants with cruel impunity. Taking action against the owner of 919 Prospect [Avenue] and other bad landlords across the city is a fundamental responsibility of practicing good government in the place that we call home. On my first day in office, I vowed to uphold that responsibility, revitalizing the Mayor's Office to Protect Tenants, and I promised that if your landlord does not responsibly steward your home, City Hall will take action to protect you.
We delivered on that promise just two weeks later when we announced a historic $2.1 million settlement for thousands of tenants in 14 buildings owned by A&E Real Estate. Today, I am proud to announce that we fulfill that obligation once again. On February 21st, the Bronx Supreme Court decreed that years of uncorrected code violations at 919 Prospect Avenue constitute a public nuisance. And in a city where we know that time is money, there has been an order that the owner pay $1,000 a day in penalties for violations dating back to April 21st, 2019, totaling more than $2.1 million so far, with fines continuing to accrue if conditions are not addressed as required by the court.
A permanent injunction was also issued to put a stop to the building's neglect once and for all. This is a landmark victory, the first time that the court has levied the maximum civil penalties allowed on a landlord under the Nuisance Abatement Law, an indication of the extreme state of disrepair that these tenants were being forced to live [in]. I want this legal decision to put other bad landlords across our city on notice. If you do not change your ways, we now have a strong precedent to pursue the same kind of legal action against you.
And we have allocated more than $85 million in our preliminary budget to add 200 new attorneys and 100 support staff to our Law Department so we can take on more cases just like this one. And while we welcome the award of the maximum penalty permitted, our interest, frankly, is ultimately not in the scale of the fine. Our interest is in finding compliance across the city so the residents of 919 Prospect [Avenue] can finally have safe and healthy homes.
Though the victories against both this landlord and A&E [Real Estate] mark key steps in our fight for tenant rights, these are only two examples of those who have forced New Yorkers to live in abysmal conditions for far too long. We know that there are many, many more across our five boroughs. And that's why we've invited New Yorkers to participate in Rental Ripoff Hearings across each and every one of those boroughs, so people can share the stories of mistreatment and neglect that afflict them on a daily basis.
And those that have been silenced repeatedly will finally have their voices heard by City government. I was here in the Bronx just yesterday for our third hearing at Fordham University, where I spoke with a tenant who told me about how her landlord had allowed their elevator to remain inoperable for five months in one period of time. And she then showed me a video of a neighbor of hers who had a young daughter who is disabled and requires the use of that elevator on a daily basis and how in this video that mother carried her daughter in her own arms from the school bus through the lobby and up multiple flights of stairs. The consequences of this kind of inaction and impunity are felt in the day-to-day lives of working-class New Yorkers across the city.
And I am proud to stand here alongside partners in our own administration and across city government to showcase what it will look like now for us to finally take a stand to stand up for safe and healthy conditions for each and every tenant across the city. Because [of] what these hearings do, they are not simply places to air grievances, to finally have someone hear the pain that so many tenants are living through. What they also do are events [that] allow us at City government to understand the scope of the issues that tenants face and allow us to draft reports and policy informed by that very testimony.
Because for far too long New Yorkers have been abandoned to a living nightmare when bad landlords are able to operate with impunity. And now we are working together to bring that time of living nightmares to an end. So, let today not only set a legal precedent; let it also set a precedent for what the future of renting in our city will look like. One where City Hall steps up and ensures that every tenant is safe in the place that they call home. Thank you very much. And I will not pass it over to our executive director of the Mayor’s Office to Protect Tenants, Cea Weaver.
Cea Weaver, Executive Director, Mayor's Office to Protect Tenants: Thank you so much. And I’m so grateful to be here with these amazing city leaders. And also, so grateful to the tenants at 919 Prospect [Avenue] and all of the buildings owned by this landlord for your persistence in fighting for your rights and the rights of your neighbors. It really is. As long as I've been here as a tenant organizer in New York City and now in this new role, I have known the name Seth Miller. Ever since he bought the building at 919 Prospect Avenue, tenants have reported that conditions have deteriorated and the horror stories are truly shocking.
We've heard stories of instead of, remediating lead paint, knocking down a wall and harming the infants who live in the building. When we talk about the worst landlords in the city, Seth Miller is often at the top of the list. And as the mayor has made clear, if you are not a responsible steward of people's homes, the city is going to step in. In this case, I am very thrilled to join Steve, the attorneys at the Law Department, and the tenants and the advocates from TakeRoot Justice, who have been fighting for this building for so long, to celebrate this victory, not just a historic financial penalty, but a victory for repairs to begin within one month.
It is really our priority here. The repairs are our priority, ensuring that the tenants of 919 Prospect Avenue have safe, livable homes that they deserve. And make no mistake, if you do not comply with this court order, we are going to step in again. This decision today shows that the City of New York is going to use every tool at our disposal to protect tenants, and we will be stepping up these efforts in the new Mamdani administration. So, I'm so pleased to be here, and I'm so pleased to pass it over to Corp Counsel Steve Banks.
Corporation Counsel Steven Banks: Good morning. Thank you, mayor, for giving us the resources at the Law Department to make real the commitment to protect New Yorkers from conditions like the tenants in this building have endured. This is a decision that sends a message to the landlord in this building that leaving tenants in deplorable conditions that create a public nuisance will not be tolerated and that there are financial consequences for not making the repairs.
But our aim is to make sure that everyone is on notice who owns property, [and] that the Law Department will be ready to take action on behalf of tenants in this city who have been living through deplorable conditions. But it's not just the resources that the mayor has given us to bring more of these kinds of cases if needed. It's the whole-of-government approach that is a new era.
[A] combination of the Buildings Department, the Health Department, the Fire Department, [and] the Housing Department — that's the effort that was needed to protect the tenants and to result in this particular ruling. TakeRoot Justice, an important community partner in legal services, also plays a critical role in representing the tenants individually while the city takes action on their behalf collectively and on behalf of the City of Newark to say enough is enough, make the repairs [and] suffer the financial consequences when you haven't made the repairs.
But at the end of the day, when you look at the conditions as the mayor described them that people have been living in, human beings must have a dignified life, not living in a building where the building facade has fallen debris without a sidewalk shed, [an] inoperable boiler, obstructed and defective fire escapes, peeling lead paint, unsafe electrical equipment, rodents and vermin.
Imagine what it is like to live in that building. That's why the city had to take action. That's why the court responded. Now it's up to the landlord who will be ready to enforce this judgment. I'm going to pass it on to my old friend and partner in standing up for tenants, the borough president.
Bronx Borough President Vanessa Gibson: Thank you, Steven. Old friend, still a friend. Good morning, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to Bronx Borough Hall. I am proud to serve as the president of this great borough, Vanessa L. Gibson, and I thank you all for being here today for such an important press announcement for residents and families of 919 Prospect Avenue in our borough. First let me acknowledge our mayor, Zohran Mamdani, and all of our officials who are here for this important announcement of a judgment for $2.1 million requiring, demanding repairs under the city's nuisance abatement law against Seth Miller, the landlord at 919 Prospect Avenue.
First let me say that affordable housing and access to decent, quality, safe, dignified and respectful housing is a fundamental right. New Yorkers should never live in the conditions that residents and families at 919 Prospect have endured for years. It is unacceptable and truly requires severe action. Today's announcement is a bold step forward in our overall effort to ensure that New Yorkers are living in dignified housing and landlords are held accountable for the responsibility of maintaining these buildings and exceeding the minimum of standards. The Bronx does not deserve the minimum of anything, but rather the maximum, of everything.
And I first want to recognize all of the residents and families at 919 who are probably watching this press conference and say, “thank you.” Somehow in the midst of your pain, we are now finding that purpose. And in the midst of all of your storms, all of the issues you have endured with your children and older adults, we find strength in today's announcement. Thank you to TakeRoot Justice. You have been on the ground, credible messengers, trusted partners for years with organizations that I've had the honor to work with, like Casa Bronx and Northwest — that's now called Our Bronx — and so many other organizations that I've organized with, led with, marched with, shown up at buildings when there was no heat, no hot water, no working elevator, there was vermin and rodents, and somehow the residents were still there.
Today sends an absolute clear message that negligent landlords who put tenants and families at risk will be held accountable. No family in our borough or anywhere in this city should ever have to live in unsafe and [low] quality conditions, [with] negligent landlords that do not take care of their families. They refuse to meet basic responsibilities. I thank you again, mayor, for your leadership, for your partnership and [for] your commitment to standing up for all New Yorkers and holding landlords accountable, protecting tenants, and ensuring that housing across this city requires strong collaboration and partnership and a shared commitment to equity, fairness, and justice. The safety and the well-being of our residents in this borough and all New Yorkers must always come first.
Housing is not just about buildings, but it's about stability and dignity and security. It's about self-sufficiency and independence, and somehow, the residents of 919 Prospect Avenue have held on for all this time. At a time when so many families are already navigating an affordability crisis that we consistently talk about, it's unacceptable for tenants to also be forced to live in dangerous living conditions due to landlord neglect. New Yorkers should never have to choose between affordability, quality, and safety. This enforcement action announced today is an important step towards protecting tenants and ensuring that landlords who violate the law will face real consequences.
And this issue also speaks broadly to the fight for tenant protections across our city. During my time at the City Council, I joined then-Council Member Mark Levine — Steve Banks was a part of this effort as well — to secure the universal right to counsel. Legislation that codified that landlords facing eviction in housing court would be guaranteed a lawyer. And we have seen results where we have saved families from evictions. That is also a critical part of this work. And so, we must continue to work together to protect tenants, strengthen accountability, and ensure that every family can live in safe and dignified housing. Today is an important day, but certainly, I know the pain that many families on Prospect have endured. And we are here to help you, and we know that there are many others out there. And so, we encourage residents to call 311, come forward and do not be afraid because you have rights.
It is not acceptable to live in deplorable conditions and pay your rent every month. That will not happen in this city under the leadership of this mayor. And so again, I thank you all, and most importantly, I want to thank the residents of 919 Prospect Avenue. We are here because we have seen what you have endured, and we are so sorry that it has taken so long for you to get the justice that you deserve. And let this be a message to everyone out there who thinks it is okay to neglect our tenants and families in this borough, especially children and older adults. We are putting you on notice. It will not happen in this borough and it will not happen in this city. I thank you again. And now I want to recognize the local New York City council member that represents the families of 919 Prospect Avenue, District 17, New York City Council Member Justin Sanchez.
City Council Member Justin Sanchez: Thank you, Madam BP. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. And now we know why the weather is so terrible outside. It is a terrible day to be a predatory landlord in the City of New York. Good morning, everyone. My name is Council Member Justin Sanchez. I'm your newly elected Council member representing District 17, the South Bronx, and the clock is ticking. For 15 years, residents of 919 Prospect Avenue have lived in some of the worst conditions in our city. For 15 years, Seth Miller has profited off of the corners he cut, jeopardizing the physical and mental health of the people who call our community home.
Today, every call that was rejected, every text that was left unread, every envelope that was left unopened is finally going to be answered, because the law is now knocking on his door. In two weeks, those letters won't just be a stack of complaints, they'll be a stack of fines. The days of sweeping these problems under the rug are over because the tenants deserve floors that are safe to stand on. He's going to have to make sure the stoves work because if they don't, the fire under him is only going to burn hotter. Tenants have been living with the walls closing in on them, but now the walls are closing in on him. I want to applaud the mayor and council for their leadership on bringing justice and quality of life to these tenants.
This judgment, the historic penalty that was imposed, and the fines moving forward will create the kind of urgency that tenants need and have been waiting for here. The families who live here have never asked for anything extraordinary, they're just asking for a safe place to rest their heads and a place to call home. For 15 years, they were left in the dark, and today we finally begin to turn the page and make 919 Prospect Avenue a place that they can be proud to call home. Thank you.
Question: Covering Seth Miller for the last 10 years, the one thing he's good at is chicanery, figuring out ways to file for bankruptcy, then when he gets reappointed, continuing not to do repairs. I wonder if you could tell me what the enforcement mechanism would be to force him to comply, because in the past he has not complied with federal court orders and also local court orders.
Mayor Mamdani: I think one thing that he has not met in all of those years is our administration. And we are an administration that believes in accountability for each and every person that calls this city home. And for far too long, landlords such as him have acted with a sense of impunity precisely because they have never had to actually face it. I'm just going to call my Corporation Counsel to speak a little bit to the specificity of the manner of this order. And I'll also just say — and Cea is also here, [and] can add anything if needed — that there are multiple proceedings that are currently underway against this landlord. What we are talking about is a court order. There's also the city-led alternative enforcement program, which is currently underway with regards to this specific landlord.
Steve Banks: Thank you, mayor. I would just add, I think my track record over the last couple of decades has been pretty good at holding people accountable. And with the resources that the mayor has given us, we're not going to rest until this landlord is held accountable for what has occurred in this building. There are multiple ways forward. I've always learned [that] when dealing with somebody like this particular landlord, it's best not to telegraph exactly what we're going to do. But rest assured: we will be ready.
Claribel Morales, Staff Attorney, and Nova Rivera, Advocacy Coordinator, TakeRoot Justice: Good morning. My name is Claribel Morales and I'm one of the attorneys from TakeRoot Justice who intervened in this case on behalf of the tenants. I'm here with my colleague, Nova Rivera, Pilar DeJesus, and I'm also here with two of the tenants of 919, Edna Rivera, Maria Rivera — if you would like to stand up, please. I think it's very important to highlight that the tenants of this building have remained united. As you stated, Take Root Justice came into this building in 2016. I took over in 2021. We intervened in the city's case, but through and through, they have remained united and continue to be united. So, a round of applause for them.
Mayor Mamdani: Actually, just before we go, could I ask the tenants to come and join us up here, if you'd feel comfortable with that?
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Question: Question about the economy. The comptroller was going over some jobs numbers yesterday that didn't sound so great. Moody's lowered the prospect for the city's credit rating yesterday. So, two questions, both on the economy, both in the same sort of vein. Does this give you any hesitation as you consider tapping reserves or taxing corporations specifically? And then what are you doing to grow jobs in New York City in this somewhat uneasy moment?
Mayor Mamdani: So, I'll start with the second, and then I'll go into the first. We are looking forward to building on our city's history of generating wealth across these five boroughs and on ensuring that wealth reaches the lives of working-class New Yorkers. Because for far too long, the language of economic development and economic justice has somehow been characterized as if in tension, when our administration believes that they can be one and the same. I'll give you one example.
Just yesterday, I had a meeting with the FIFA president Gianni Infantino, as well as two of his top deputies, about the World Cup that is coming to New York City. This is not only something that many New Yorkers are looking forward to because we love the game, but also because it has the potential to be an immense economic driver in this city for the number of tourists that will come here, and also for New Yorkers who have an opportunity to reimagine and understand their own city. One thing we want to make clear, and that [Bronx] Borough President Gibson makes clear every single time that we speak, is that we want to ensure that every single borough in this city is one that feels that tournament and also the prospect of economic development from it.
On the first point, I will just say that with Moody's outlook change, I think given the $5 billion in additional funding that both the Senate and the Assembly put forward for the city in their one-house budget proposals — proposals that are being voted on today — I think that the decision to revise the outlook, frankly, is premature. I do acknowledge that they are maintaining the city's credit rating at AA2.
The proposals that we're seeing from Albany reflect a real commitment to ensuring that we can bridge this inherited fiscal deficit and do so while continuing to invest in the city services that so many New Yorkers rely on. And I'll just give you one last example. We would not be standing here were it not for the deep commitment across both city agencies and organizations like TakeRoot Justice. We want to ensure that we meet impunity with accountability. Part of that comes from being able to invest in the law department so that cases like these — which we know are not actually unique cases, they are cases that are commonplace across the city — are finally met with the same kind of response from the city.
Question: Any hesitation on the corporate tax aspect, considering we're talking about jobs here?
Mayor Mamdani: I think that jobs are critical to generate in this city. I also think that we've seen corporations, the ones that we speak about are the ones that are making an immense amount of profit, not corporations at large or small businesses. We're talking about the most profitable ones in New York City. And amidst being in the wealthiest city in the wealthiest country in the history of the world, we already see an exodus of working- and middle-class New Yorkers. So, I don't have a hesitation in asking those who make the most amount of money in this city or the most profits in this city to pay a little bit more so that everyone can actually stay in this city.
It's also something not just about justice or the ability for working-class people to live here. It is also actually about ensuring that corporations can continue to attract the top talent to this city. Because in a city where child care costs more than $20,000 a year, I've heard from corporate leaders about how difficult it is for them to attract individuals who would work at their companies but want to raise a family, because you could be making $300,000 a year and you will feel that $20,000 a year because of the fact that we have allowed for the absence of affordable child care to become reality here in this city.
Question: Good morning, Mayor. I understand that you had a conversation recently with Governor Shapiro of Pennsylvania. Can you share with us, please, why you had that conversation and what you discussed? And I have a second question about Airbnb, if you will.
Mayor Mamdani: Yeah. Governor Shapiro reached out to check in on me and on my wife, and I really appreciated that, especially given what he has had to experience in Pennsylvania. And he shared some words of support, and he also made clear that Pennsylvania stands ready to help our city and our state in pursuing accountability for the two individuals who came across straight lines throwing an IED.
Question: Can you tell us when he reached out to you?
Mayor Mamdani: It was a few days ago that he reached out.
Question: And regarding Airbnb, in your answer to Henry's question, you spoke about the city's economy. Is your position that Airbnb should still continue to be denied the ability to do business in the city?
Mayor Mamdani: I continue to maintain the position that I've had, which is that we have to ensure that we allow New York City's homes to remain as homes and not become hotels, and that we have hotels for exactly that purpose.
Question: First, I want to say congratulations, because we get so many calls from tenants saying that they have unscrupulous caseros, a la familia muchisimas felicidades de parte de N+ Univision por este gran logro. But I wanted to ask you a question on safety, Mr. Mayor, kind of following up this ISIS teens that were charged that are putting your safety and your wife's in danger. Have you heard anything about the other possible targets that they might have had? Have you had any information on planning or logistics that you can expand so we can know more about them?
Mayor Mamdani: At this time, the information that I have is what I've shared with the public. However, what I will say is that I am so appreciative of the hardworking men and women of the NYPD, who not only ensured that they were able to keep New Yorkers safe on that day, but have also ensured that accountability is something that we are pursuing as a city, not just at this press event, but frankly, in those charges as well.
Question: Hi, Mr. Mayor. How are you today? I have two questions. The second one will be about homelessness. The first one, on the same subject, we understand that you have said repeatedly you never condone violence. We're also very happy that you and your wife are safe. We also know that you support Mahmoud Khalil's right to free speech and that you oppose his deportation as being unjust. I just wanted to know, when you posted about hosting Mr. Khalil and his family at an iftar [at] Gracie Mansion, how did you weigh putting that post out there against what you might have perceived or imagined could be a backlash against that post from some people who feel that Mr. Khalil's views have either promoted antisemitism — he's been accused by the government of supporting Hamas. So, given that view and that he has reportedly called for armed resistance, I just wonder how did you weigh that when you were making that post? And also, with all due respect to the First Lady and her privacy, she was prominently displayed in that post. Was that something that you considered just days after saying that she was a private citizen on a similar subject?
Mayor Mamdani: As the mayor of New York City, I believe it is my responsibility to fight for the safety and for the rights of each and every New Yorker. Mahmoud Khalil is a New Yorker who one year prior to the iftar that we shared with him was returning from another iftar when he was detained by ICE agents, flown to Louisiana and held in an ICE facility. And he was held there for months. And the only charge that was levied against him was the exercising of his First Amendment rights. And I have long maintained that he and any New Yorker should be able to exercise their First Amendment rights in this city without fear of the kind of punishment that was inflicted upon him. And it's a punishment that many of us have quantified in the days that he was held in an ICE facility and the fact that his case continues to be ongoing.
But also in that moment, it was a punishment that I understood more personally, given the fact that he missed the birth of his first child. And I think that it is critical that every New Yorker know that I will stand up for their right to exercise their First Amendment rights. And I'll even just say, as much as I abhor the views that were expressed by the protesters who set up a protest outside of Gracie Mansion, in their words, to protest the “Islamic takeover of New York City,” the fact that they brought a goat and a bigoted display of what they view to be Islam, that they brought a roasted pig to my residence during the month of Ramadan — I still believe they have the right to protest. And I will still protect that right for each and every New Yorker. And I think that for far too long, we've seen in this city and across the country, frankly, an inability to understand what it takes to stand up for the Constitution, for the laws that we have. And that has led to a sense of fear as to whether the law is merely an assessment of power as opposed to an instrument of justice and consistency.
Question: And then on the subject of homelessness, we know you're planning to close 30th Street Men's Shelter, relocate the operations to two other locations that are down on 3rd Street and on Bowery. Can you just tell us, as you look at the situation now, what is your vision? What will you put in place of the 30th Street Men's Shelter? And also, what will happen to the people who are currently living in those Lower East Side locations? Have they and the communities been notified? Have they been notified that they're leaving? Have the new communities, I think in Brooklyn, been told that they're coming?
Mayor Mamdani: So, that's a lot of the work of our city administration, is doing that notification, that engagement. I want to just first answer the question around the 30th Street Shelter, which is the fact that we saw a number of structural concerns around that shelter and the potential for real damage, not only to the infrastructure of that building, but also to the health and safety of those who are working and residing within that building. And we've known about this, actually, for quite some time, but we've made the decision — we being the city — had known about this. We've come into office and made the decision that we cannot entertain the possibility of anyone facing any kind of a lack of safety at their workplace or at a shelter. And so, the vision is for buildings that are safe for New Yorkers to work in and for New Yorkers to reside in. These relocations are part and parcel of us taking the temporary steps to ensure that we can actually evacuate and stop using that building in a timely manner.
Question: I want to ask you about that meeting with Gianni Infantino. Firstly, whether you reached out to FIFA or FIFA reached out to you about that meeting taking place, and secondly, given how critical you've been of his handling this tournament at times, whether you got any concessions from him or any concrete steps that he might be implementing to make it more accessible.
Mayor Mamdani: So, I'm actually not sure on where the request came from. I can tell you, though, that we can follow up on that with you. I appreciated the chance to sit down with FIFA president Infantino and to speak about the ways in which we want to transform the city as we deliver this World Cup and the potential to be working together to ensure that New Yorkers, beyond just those who can afford a ticket to get into the stadium, can experience the same tournament. And I shared with him both my own experiences at attending a prior World Cup in South Africa in 2010, but also my experiences as a New Yorker and seeing how the city comes alive when the World Cup is being played hundreds, thousands of miles from here, and what it can look like to ensure that kids are growing up in this city with better facilities in order to play soccer here, that adults are given the kinds of skills they need to coach those same kids, the many different prospects of partnership.
And I'm hopeful of what that can deliver for New Yorkers across the five boroughs. I spoke to him about a wide variety of things, and I spoke to him about the importance of ensuring that this isn't just a tournament that comes and goes, but one that has a lasting legacy. And I will say that here in New York City, we're excited at being a fixture when it comes to soccer, when it comes to not only this World Cup, not only the next Olympics, but we also have hopes around 2031 as well.
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